tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8079506575381150158.post5971766647667295833..comments2023-11-05T01:58:49.142-06:00Comments on Lost in Translation: Horace, Ode 1.11Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8079506575381150158.post-65239015659125060582017-05-24T00:42:39.253-05:002017-05-24T00:42:39.253-05:00Few things:
1) Why not "last (winter)"? ...Few things:<br />1) Why not "last (winter)"? Doesn't that seem more likely? Many winters or [this] last [winter]? I would've thought a substantive referring to "day" as a general day would more likely be masculine (though I'm not sure on this), and besides that, it makes more sense to use a version of "hiemes" (hiemem, in this case) to contrast with "hiemes"<br />2) While "mare" could be nominative or accusative, quae must be nominative (it could only be accusative if it were neuter plural, but we know it refers back to ultimam, so it's feminine), and so in this context, mare will be the accusative direct object: the last [winter] which weakens [or wears out] the sea.<br />3) I was going to challenge your translation of the prohibitive subjunctive, but I realized I don't know much on the subject and now I'm reading...Charlie Burkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03050623105835938080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8079506575381150158.post-64384126752807773352017-03-11T18:29:13.716-06:002017-03-11T18:29:13.716-06:00Your lucid and closely literal version is far supe...Your lucid and closely literal version is far superior to the mishmash of this wonderful poem that David Ferry offers in his Noonday press translation of the Odes (1997). Gratias tibi.wlsmpchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543024510147789924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8079506575381150158.post-53770828109702798992016-08-08T11:09:16.109-05:002016-08-08T11:09:16.109-05:00One of the nicest English translation.
N.B. (1) &...One of the nicest English translation. <br />N.B. (1) "Tyrrhenian" sea, NOT Tyrrhenum [sic]Count Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13160492833849729483noreply@blogger.com